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reviewed
by Moe Berg, Peter
Darbyshire, and George Murray
A prose poem
for, and titled after, five albums worth of Queen songs. Dream or
nightmare? It may depend on what you take into it.
Moe Berg, rock star of The Pursuit of Happiness fame, joins us to
talk about Queen, growing up obsessed with rock 'n' roll, and the
meaning of the word "punk."
Read an Excerpt from God Save My Queen here.
GEORGE: When I first
heard that Nester was working on this book of prose poems, I must
admit, I was kind of nervous. An entire book of poems dedicated to
Queen song titles? Neat idea, I thought, but where does it go from
the idea? Then I heard him read from it at a bookstore in Brooklyn.
I was laid out, etherized. It was magic that something could start
with so nutty and eccentric and, lets face it, somewhat shallow a
band as Queen and become something much deeper about growing up,
obsession, and familial relations.
Which leads me to my one
concern: I hope the book reads well to people who have never met
Nester or heard him read. I think it does, but that may be coloured
by the fact that my introduction to the poems was through spoken
word rather than the printed page.
(Aside: I heard that Richard
Nash, publisher of Soft Skull
Press, kind of 'signed' Dan band-style
too. Nester was giving a reading from the poems at a regular New
York venue while Nash sat with a bunch of others in the audience.
When he finished, Nash goes a&r scout and calls Dan over and says,
"So, let's do a book." Reminded me of the story Jason
Newstead getting signed with Metallica -- a set with his former
band, Flotsam and Jetsam, a call over to the table, an offer to play
with Metallica, a 'woohoo' done with more profanity. Soft Skull even
printed the book in the dimensions of a 45 record.)
MOE: I was more
worried about whether someone who was not a Queen fan would be able
to enjoy this. I, as a teenager, was a huge fan and so were all of
my friends which makes it difficult to read this book without
prejudice. I am
dismayed at what I take to be a dissing of Queen's first two
records, Queen and
Queen II. These records were/are clearly the
band's masterpieces.
Then I read 'Killer Queen,'
where Nester implies what I have always thought; that this song
represents a fundamental shift in Queen's musical and lyrical
philosophy. Queen went from being an intellectual, heavy rock band
that wrote about Catholicism and art and mysticism, to being a
vaudeville act. Certainly, this was brewing in Freddie Mercury all
along and when 'Killer Queen' became the band's first real US hit,
it must have released the song and dance man in him and, in my
opinion, ruined the band. Gone was, as Nester puts it, "the
allegory" and in its place came 'Bohemian Rhapsody.'
Having said that, 'Killer
Queen' is an incredible song, one that Mercury would never again
duplicate in terms of quality. I defy anyone to name a radio hit
that is as rich with imagery, Springsteen included. Nester says,
"The narrative, the innocent and the short lined, all clear as
a bell," which is an accurate description but certainly doesn't
go far enough. Except that these poems are not reviews so perhaps I
expect too much. I am glad Nester notes the sad irony of a song that
is both the band's finest work and the beginning of their artistic
demise. My estimation of Nester and this book climbed after reading
this piece though, reading on, my guess is he likes crappy
post-'Killer Queen' Queen better than the cool Queen that preceded
it which makes me doubt his taste.
PETER: Before I
started reading this book, I wondered if I should listen to some
Queen. I've never owned an album, just listened to what I heard on
the radio, back when I listened to the radio. But then I figured it
could be interesting to approach the poems from the perspective of
someone only casually familiar with Queen's music. (And who isn't at
least casually familiar with Queen?)
I began to worry when I read the first couple of albums
though. I just did not get the poems. Couldn't find reference points
for them. I did like the musicality of certain lines, and the
strangeness of some - "I'll admonish you and your triumvirate
later. Later for you." - and I did like the idea of the
footnotes, although again, I did blow bubble bath about the tub with
my heavy sighs of uncertainty. I figured it was because I wasn't
familiar with either of those first two Queen albums, so I kept on
reading.
When I read 'Killer Queen,'
though, that one clicked with me. I'm not sure why, as the lines
weren't any more referential than the ones that had come before. But
I heard the music and remembered moments listening to that song, and
suddenly there was a context.
The book kind of reminds me
of an abstract painting. You look at the words and are either
baffled or get some sort of emotional response that's hard to
describe but satisfying nevertheless. When I read the line "Get
allegory out of the way" in 'Killer Queen,' I chuckle and nod.
I'm not sure what exactly it is that speaks to me about it, but
something does.
Or maybe I just have no
imagination.
GEORGE: For me the
concern is whether these poems work as poems rather than as anything
to do with Queen, and I think they do for several reasons.
The first is multiplicity of
meaning -- it's a book of many levels. The Queen here is a catalyst
for examining deeper pieces of the (in particular Nester's)
adolescent psyche and familial relations.
I was particularly struck by
a couple of lines in the opening two 'albums.' In "Modern Times
Rock 'n' Roll" he opens the poem with "The interrupted
spectacle," has The second stanza begin with "The
spectacle interrupted," and ends with a one line third stanza,
"Look out!" There's a sense that Nester is setting up for
a play of sorts, foreshadowing a Learish drama. Later in 'Ogre
Battle' (god, Queen could title a song, couldn't they?) there is
what maybe the key line in the whole book: "Rock 'n' roll don't
need no referent. Fuck 'em if they think so." (Which is quickly
followed, of course, by a footnote citing Bon Jovi.) Nester is
always engaged in this sort of undercutting of his own narrative, a
kind of mirror for the cynical uneasiness of youth that leads to
self-ridicule and awkwardness.
The second is honesty. This
book can be particularly open. When the teen narrator mishears the
word "farther" as "father" ... that's pretty
raw. Also, the rampant sexuality of the moment ("How
wonderfully nude and fuckable I am" - 'Brighton Rock'), exposing
and embarrassing, is captured without a hint of sentimentality. It's
these kinds of things that, in my opinion, keep the book totally
valid and real as poetry.
MOE: You are right,
George when you say this is a book of many levels. Though, and I
hope you will forgive me for taking your words out of context, God
Save My Queen's value as 'real poetry' isn't that crucial for
me.
This book is part poetry,
part confessional, part novelty item and part song-by-song analysis,
(among other things, I'm sure). You mention, "The spectacle
interrupted" in 'Modern Times Rock and Roll.' This is because,
for those not familiar with the debut Queen album, it is a bit of
rock and roll relief in the middle of a fairly ponderous and
produced series of songs. It is a genius bit of sequencing and the
track acts like comic relief in a Shakespeare tragedy.
While the idea for this book
might make him appear as a crazy fan, he is more than aware of the
band's shortcomings. He is smart enough to recognize the amateur
quality of drummer Roger Taylor's songs as he writes, that he
"wonders what the other three were thinking as they heard those
badly coached demos." in his poem for 'The Loser In The End.' He
also notes the novelty of bassist, John Deacon's tunes, (Mercury and
May must have smirked at the success of Deacon's 'You're My Best
Friend,' though it was all novelty by that point). Nester finally
takes the gloves fully off regarding Deacon in his poem 'Spread Your
Wings' when he says, "You could have been in Little River
Band". Ouch.
Reading this God Save My
Queen reminds me of the rock writers of my childhood like Lester
Bangs and Richard Melzer who managed to make the music they were
writing about seem a lot more important that it probably was. Chuck
Klosterman recently did this same thing with his book Fargo Rock
City. Perhaps Nester can do for Queen what Klosterman did for 80's
hair metal.
GEORGE: Interesting
comparison to rock critics, Moe. Nester got slammed by an ex-rock
critic (known for despising Queen) in the New York
Times (login: bookninja, password: waaaa). What did
you guys make of the copious footnotes? I felt that much of the
heart of the book (that is the heart of homage) was here, the
tidbits such Brian May's almost-career in astronomy, the rock
history lessons, the obsessive quoting and recycling of lyrics.
(Aside: When I first met
Nester in New York he jumped on my admission of Canadian roots with
"Oh my God! Rush! I LOVE RUSH!" and launched into minutiae
about the band. We spent all night talking about Rush, Triumph, etc.
Is there a pattern here?)
PETER: The
"interrupted spectacle" really conveys the furtiveness of
adolescence, doesn't it? I
agree that it's kind of a tough book to pin down. I guess it's being
marketed as a poetry book by default (it's that Chapters/Borders
logic - it's not fiction, biography or a manual, so it must be
poetry), but the subtitle - "A Tribute" - does actually
sum it up best. I also
like the comparison to rock critics.
In one sense, the book does
read like an extended review, albeit by someone who likes Queen
rather than a New York Times Queen hater. But the confessional
aspect takes it into an entirely different area. As much as the book
is about Queen, it also seems to be about capturing a historical
moment and, even more specifically, about growing up in that moment.
A lot of the footnotes certainly play into this. Bon
Jovi. I hang my
head in shame. I hate to call it a coming-of-age text, but that's
certainly there to an extent.
But what I find interesting
about this is the shared referents that the music offers. Like I
said before, you can tap into moments here and there in the book's
tracks and just think, "yeah, that's right!" I have no
idea what those things actually meant to Nester, or to you guys, but
we can all identify with them in some way that invokes our
adolescence and growth, and perhaps even our own artistic
development. There's something very interesting, albeit intangible,
about this connection.
Maybe while the Great
American Novelists are writing our sociopolitical history, writers
like Nester are exploring our emotional history.
Either of you think this book has a certain punk quality to
it?
GEORGE: Well, Soft
Skull Books is essentially New York City's premier punk press.
They've published some pretty radical political and poetic texts
over the years, so are no strangers to taking risks. I think
Nester's book fits in with their punk mandate to some degree, but I
also think it has more mass appeal than it's been granted in the
press. But other than the publisher, I don't know that it can be
classified as punk. What aspect of the punk aesthetic are you
referring to? It's not a mohawk of a book, that's for sure. It has
no chains and studs. If it's punk at all (in the original sense of
the word, rather than the Green Day/MTV sense), it seems to me it's
more in the embracing of positions outside authority and popularity.
I wonder how differently we
would have read, and in turn reviewed, this book if we were women. I
think this coming of age is certainly a boy's coming of age, and an
unusually articulate one at that. But it definitely belongs to men.
Not that it can't be read with empathy and understanding by women,
but I think there are some intensely intimate adolescent moments
that just made me blush with recognition. God, I wish I could take
back so much (from this past year, much less almost twenty years
ago... HOLY CRAP! TWENTY YEARS!)
MOE: I agree with
Peter that "A Tribute" is perhaps the best way to describe
the book though it's also a chronicle both of Queen and of Nester's
adolescence and early adulthood.
As far as whether it is
punk, I'm not quite sure what that means in a literary sense. It
doesn't read particularly "street" to me. It does have a
lot of passion, though, the footnotes especially. This book reminds
me of the way I used to love bands. And love is an appropriate word
for the obsessive way one behaves. My heart would leap just to see
my favorite band's name in print, or if I heard their song on the
radio I'd have to point it out to someone, "listen it's Alice
Cooper!" or whoever else it was at the time. That, to me,
explains the constant references. Everything reminds you of your
love and everything relates to it.
Nester on a couple of
occasions attacks Queen's critics, Richard Christgau for one, and I
love the way he puts the boots to that execrable Courtney Love in
'All Dead, All Dead' for giggling during her reading of Kurt Cobain's
reference to Queen in his suicide note. You never let anyone get
away with saying something bad about your band.
Nester certainly wouldn't be
the first writer to use his book to get back at someone, some
writers use their pen to get back at everyone.
PETER: By
"punk" I meant a certain irreverence and disregard for
traditional form/content issues, not so much street cred, etc. I
think Nester has this sort of sensibility, and I guess I'd use
"punk" as a sort of opposite pole to avant-garde, which I
don't think is his game at all. "Experimental" just seems
so weak, and Nester's "tribute" seems so much more brass
and aggressive than the usual homage-style tribute.
George, I think you're right
about the maleness of this book. I can't decide if this is
appropriate or ironic, given the band in question. Moe, I like your
comments about the love/obsession for the band. I remember feeling
that way when I was young too (but I'm not about to tell anyone what
bands I was into). Of course, I haven't felt that way in a long time
about any bands. Not sure if that's because of the current music
scene or the fact that I'm just old and unhip. But it's just so
damned hard to find good, non-corporate music these days.
Maybe it's not surprising
that we're talking about a book about a band that's rooted so firmly
in the past. Given the nature of the cultural references in the
footnotes and all, I wonder if Nester's goal is as much a tribute to
a fading musical era as it is to the life and death of Queen or an
exploration of his own past through the band's musical touchstones.
Certainly there's a little bit of all the above in the book.
Well, that's it for me. I
have to say, I found this a tricky book to read, but worth it. While
I couldn't always find a way into the poems in the book, they all
engaged me, and I did grapple with them rather than just flipping
the page. It's a gutsy book, one that makes you think and, more
important, makes you feel.
GEORGE: I agree,
Pete, with your assessments, both about the book and aging. I've
come to that dreadful stage where I tease my little sister (12 years
younger) about liking that band, 'Korn Biskit...' I even found
myself complaining about Linkin Park the other day. I had turned on
CFNY (it will NEVER be 'The Edge' to me) and there was this
screaming going on and I waited and waited and waited for a melody
to present itself so that I might recognize it, and when it took
almost a minute, I said to my partner something I never thought I'd
hear myself say: "A song should be instantly recognizable as a
song... it should have a melody!" After she told me I was
getting old, I followed that stunner up with, "Hey, I was a
Nirvana freak. That's as angry as music needs to get!" So, what
I'm saying is, it's no wonder this book is ringing well with
30-year-old dudes like us. I wonder if a 21-year-old skate punk
(that is, today's skate punk) would get it.
I think Nester is definitely
a pop-culture curator whose poems deserve more attention than some
of the 'history of rock' crap we get on TV and in magazines. Is he
writing to a narrow audience? Perhaps on some levels. But I think
the philosophy and poetry supersede the rockumentary here, and
that's what makes the book a success.
I am interested, Moe, in
your perspective as a musician cum writer -- do you think it
succeeds on both levels?
Personally, I'll especially
be interested to see some of Nester's non-Queen-related poetry,
which I hope follows within a year or two of this book. I think he
should take a book or two off before finishing up the remaining
Queen albums, if he indeed intends to.
MOE: I agree with you George. I don't
think I would have been as interested in a stock biography of Queen.
But Nester's book really got me jazzed about my old heroes. I think
my fascination stems from the fact that they were the first band I
really liked that I was able to watch degenerate. Even though I hung
in for a while, after the third album they, except on rare
occasions, were pretty goofy. Still, I retained enough
affection for the band that I was honestly sad when Mercury died.
Nester's energy infected me. I worried at
points that perhaps Nester was putting us on like the guy who did
the spoof on Jewel's book. But his poem for 'Tie Your Mother
Down' is as exciting as the song itself. I wonder what hard
core Queen fans will think of this, the people who buy
everything relating to the band. I hope they like it as much as I
did.
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